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		<title>By: PrettyFakes &#187; Blog Archive &#187; One thing about Captain America #600</title>
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		<dc:creator>PrettyFakes &#187; Blog Archive &#187; One thing about Captain America #600</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] superhero comic&#8212;let&#8217;s say it&#8217;s an all-out space battle between Gorilla Grodd and Monsieur Mallah, with the love of The Brain in the balance&#8212;and say &#8220;It&#8217;s like this was written [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] superhero comic&#8212;let&#8217;s say it&#8217;s an all-out space battle between Gorilla Grodd and Monsieur Mallah, with the love of The Brain in the balance&#8212;and say &#8220;It&#8217;s like this was written [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Professor Fury</title>
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		<dc:creator>Professor Fury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 14:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoop! I&#039;ll make that correction -- thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoop! I&#8217;ll make that correction&#8212;thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Mimi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 07:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m seriously convinced Morrison was still on his drug kick when he wrote that issue.  Drug-induced or not, it&#039;s still the most hilarious thing in the history of this or any other Earth.  For those who haven&#039;t, you should really read the full issue. It&#039;s even better IN context.

Also think he did the Brain/Mallah thing more for laughs than anything else. It was kept because DC has more respect for Morrison and his work than, say... Marvel.

I did notice the paternal ties as well. Their relationship could also be considered Pygmalion (taking something and molding it to your perfect mate; not sure what that says about the Brain...).  But it&#039;s still a fun, and by far more interesting couple than any other.  People who see it as some kind of metaphor for the gay community as a whole are probably looking too deep into it. Morrison even defended the couple against some homophobe who wrote in (issue 39 letters), and stated that homosexuality is a &quot;fact of life&quot;.

Also, that issue was #34 The Soul of a New Machine. Just FYI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m seriously convinced Morrison was still on his drug kick when he wrote that issue.  Drug-induced or not, it&#8217;s still the most hilarious thing in the history of this or any other Earth.  For those who haven&#8217;t, you should really read the full issue. It&#8217;s even better IN context.</p>
<p>Also think he did the Brain/Mallah thing more for laughs than anything else. It was kept because DC has more respect for Morrison and his work than, say&#8230; Marvel.</p>
<p>I did notice the paternal ties as well. Their relationship could also be considered Pygmalion (taking something and molding it to your perfect mate; not sure what that says about the Brain&#8230;).  But it&#8217;s still a fun, and by far more interesting couple than any other.  People who see it as some kind of metaphor for the gay community as a whole are probably looking too deep into it. Morrison even defended the couple against some homophobe who wrote in (issue 39 letters), and stated that homosexuality is a &#8220;fact of life&#8221;.</p>
<p>Also, that issue was #34 The Soul of a New Machine. Just <span class="caps">FYI</span>.</p>
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		<title>By: brd</title>
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		<dc:creator>brd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to chime in yesterday, but was out of time. I&#039;m ashamed of the typos in the post I did make. Fury, are your Teen Titans related to the mytho-titans or Fafner and Fasolt of Das Rhinegold fame? The newest &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0300104227/104-3361675-5071152?v=glance&amp;n=283155&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bio of Wagner, The Last Titan&lt;/a&gt; seems to beg some connection. 

I was charmed by the depth of the interaction here, from fractured hero to the culture that leaves us without an attainable bridge between hidden self and sustainable worship. &lt;a href=&quot;http://letters-and-surveys.blogspot.com/2006/06/wagners-ring-and-final-contract-of.html&quot;&gt;I&#039;ve been working on something&lt;/a&gt; related to this and think that &quot;fractured&quot; and immolated Brunnhilde devoid of deity but embracing love moves in the direction that art,  and theology (perhaps even comics) could stand to go.

Gorjus, what you identified as the loss of vulnerability within the comic hero genre is truly a loss. It is the vulnerability and the frailty that makes the hero, don&#039;t you think? 

Theologically, it is Jesus as wounded healer, suffering servant, crucified Lord, who helps to make me make sense of the world, much more than Jesus as perfect Superhero.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to chime in yesterday, but was out of time. I&#8217;m ashamed of the typos in the post I did make. Fury, are your Teen Titans related to the mytho-titans or Fafner and Fasolt of Das Rhinegold fame? The newest <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0300104227/104-3361675-5071152?v=glance&#038;n=283155" rel="nofollow">bio of Wagner, The Last Titan</a> seems to beg some connection.</p>
<p>I was charmed by the depth of the interaction here, from fractured hero to the culture that leaves us without an attainable bridge between hidden self and sustainable worship. <a href="http://letters-and-surveys.blogspot.com/2006/06/wagners-ring-and-final-contract-of.html">I&#8217;ve been working on something</a> related to this and think that &#8220;fractured&#8221; and immolated Brunnhilde devoid of deity but embracing love moves in the direction that art,  and theology (perhaps even comics) could stand to go.</p>
<p>Gorjus, what you identified as the loss of vulnerability within the comic hero genre is truly a loss. It is the vulnerability and the frailty that makes the hero, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
<p>Theologically, it is Jesus as wounded healer, suffering servant, crucified Lord, who helps to make me make sense of the world, much more than Jesus as perfect Superhero.</p>
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		<title>By: brd</title>
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		<dc:creator>brd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 19:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! This is a marvelous discussion. The discussion of myth and is vs. isn&#039;t strikes cord with my reaction to the movie I say the other night that I&#039;m sure everyone else in the world saw a long time ago, &lt;em&gt;Crash&lt;/em&gt;. The piece is so interesting and comic-like, perhaps, in it&#039;s attempt to create characters with the Yin and Yan out there on the sleeve. 

I&#039;ve got to go to the supermarket, but I must come back and read this again. Thanks Danny Chase, et al. I&#039;ll comment more on the giants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! This is a marvelous discussion. The discussion of myth and is vs. isn&#8217;t strikes cord with my reaction to the movie I say the other night that I&#8217;m sure everyone else in the world saw a long time ago, <em>Crash</em>. The piece is so interesting and comic-like, perhaps, in it&#8217;s attempt to create characters with the Yin and Yan out there on the sleeve.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got to go to the supermarket, but I must come back and read this again. Thanks Danny Chase, et al. I&#8217;ll comment more on the giants.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Chase</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Chase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 19:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps it’s seen in our society with the profound emptiness implicit in much of our cultural output (with the wonderful exception of our ability to comodify damn-near anything, even beliefs/values!) 

By creating myths that we ourselves have no capacity to achieve (whether it be myths of super powers or divine righteousness), I wonder if an unconscious aesthetic is being forged whose only characteristic is the binary between IS and ISNT--meaning, whatever *is* worshipable (the heroic, the Other, the salvific) belongs to the nonavailable ISNT, and that the only things left for our society to &quot;worship&quot; is the comidifyable entities like race, gender, class, belief--the very things God doesn&#039;t even possess.  

Thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s seen in our society with the profound emptiness implicit in much of our cultural output (with the wonderful exception of our ability to comodify damn-near anything, even beliefs/values!)</p>
<p>By creating myths that we ourselves have no capacity to achieve (whether it be myths of super powers or divine righteousness), I wonder if an unconscious aesthetic is being forged whose only characteristic is the binary between IS and <span class="caps">ISNT</span>&#8212;meaning, whatever <strong>is</strong> worshipable (the heroic, the Other, the salvific) belongs to the nonavailable <span class="caps">ISNT</span>, and that the only things left for our society to &#8220;worship&#8221; is the comidifyable entities like race, gender, class, belief&#8212;the very things God doesn&#8217;t even possess.</p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: gorjus</title>
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		<dc:creator>gorjus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny, I&#039;d say Stan Lee and Jack Kirby predicated their entire company, Marvel, on just that supposition.  The classic example is Spider-Man, the superhumanly-strong nerd who suffered constant indignity and loss as both hero and civilian (the death of Uncle Ben, the death of Gwen Stacy).

Under their tutelage, all heroes &quot;battle[d] extreme pressure both within and without.&quot;  I think there is a value in that:  it reminded us that even our myths, gods, and heroes could be vulnerable and human.  It removed the yawning abyss between the democratically-elected bourgeouise of yesteryear (FDR, &amp;tc.) with a feeling that &quot;we could do it, too!&quot;  

Marvel Comics certainly grew up and alongside a &quot;people power&quot; movement, and I think the comics reflect that.  What might be more noteworthy is how the various failures and weaknesses of the early characters are now erased:  Spider-Man&#039;s greatest fear, that his identity be disclosed, is now a moot point; Iron Man no longer has the crippling heart condition that tied him to his armor; the Hulk no longer struggles with his rages, but is simply one creature of balance, now; Thor has no need of the &quot;humility-teaching&quot; Don Blake identity; Bucky isn&#039;t even dead, so Cap can&#039;t worry over that.

So the question is to me, how is the growing &quot;invulnerability,&quot; or inhumanness, of our myths mirror our current society?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny, I&#8217;d say Stan Lee and Jack Kirby predicated their entire company, Marvel, on just that supposition.  The classic example is Spider-Man, the superhumanly-strong nerd who suffered constant indignity and loss as both hero and civilian (the death of Uncle Ben, the death of Gwen Stacy).</p>
<p>Under their tutelage, all heroes &#8220;battle[d] extreme pressure both within and without.&#8221;  I think there is a value in that:  it reminded us that even our myths, gods, and heroes could be vulnerable and human.  It removed the yawning abyss between the democratically-elected bourgeouise of yesteryear (FDR, &#38;tc.) with a feeling that &#8220;we could do it, too!&#8221;</p>
<p>Marvel Comics certainly grew up and alongside a &#8220;people power&#8221; movement, and I think the comics reflect that.  What might be more noteworthy is how the various failures and weaknesses of the early characters are now erased:  Spider-Man&#8217;s greatest fear, that his identity be disclosed, is now a moot point; Iron Man no longer has the crippling heart condition that tied him to his armor; the Hulk no longer struggles with his rages, but is simply one creature of balance, now; Thor has no need of the &#8220;humility-teaching&#8221; Don Blake identity; Bucky isn&#8217;t even dead, so Cap can&#8217;t worry over that.</p>
<p>So the question is to me, how is the growing &#8220;invulnerability,&#8221; or inhumanness, of our myths mirror our current society?</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Chase</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Chase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O, Fafner and Fasolt!  

What I find most interesting when comparing early (Slavic?) narratives with modern Western ones is the contrast between their uber-external conflicts, (giants fighting powerful so-and-so&#039;s) which seem to merely *indicate* an inner realm, and our more modern preoccupation with the inner turmoil of existence in the midst of an external world killing itself to maintain its singularity—One nation under God and all that.  Specifically, I&#039;m speaking about the ideological climate of modern life, the difficulty in believing anything at all in our info-drenched world—legitimate ideological stances are so rare that all become suspect, and so anyone with a salvific confidence in their personal brand of belief must also carry a Herculean apologetic.  And yet comics, with their ellaborate settings and characters, actually seem to attempt a balance of such extremes—the fractured hero.  

Any comic lovers can pipe-in, but if comics can establish a place where a character battles extreme pressure both within and without, does that give us something valuable?  Has it yet?  Or does it merely water-down the very real difficulty of contemporary belief?  O, and am I gay if I have a loving relationship with a (not nec. my) monkey?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O, Fafner and Fasolt!</p>
<p>What I find most interesting when comparing early (Slavic?) narratives with modern Western ones is the contrast between their uber-external conflicts, (giants fighting powerful so-and-so&#8217;s) which seem to merely <strong>indicate</strong> an inner realm, and our more modern preoccupation with the inner turmoil of existence in the midst of an external world killing itself to maintain its singularity&#8212;One nation under God and all that.  Specifically, I&#8217;m speaking about the ideological climate of modern life, the difficulty in believing anything at all in our info-drenched world&#8212;legitimate ideological stances are so rare that all become suspect, and so anyone with a salvific confidence in their personal brand of belief must also carry a Herculean apologetic.  And yet comics, with their ellaborate settings and characters, actually seem to attempt a balance of such extremes&#8212;the fractured hero.</p>
<p>Any comic lovers can pipe-in, but if comics can establish a place where a character battles extreme pressure both within and without, does that give us something valuable?  Has it yet?  Or does it merely water-down the very real difficulty of contemporary belief?  O, and am I gay if I have a loving relationship with a (not nec. my) monkey?</p>
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		<title>By: brd</title>
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		<dc:creator>brd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m there with Danny Chase. I don&#039;t do comics, but your critiques are entertaining. The seeming obscurity of your topics is encouraging me to write down some thoughts I&#039;ve been having on the symbollic meaning of Fafner&#039;s relationship to Fasolt and what the building of Valhalla means. Not quite as good as gay relations in DC comics, but it too could be a real lead-in to family craziness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m there with Danny Chase. I don&#8217;t do comics, but your critiques are entertaining. The seeming obscurity of your topics is encouraging me to write down some thoughts I&#8217;ve been having on the symbollic meaning of Fafner&#8217;s relationship to Fasolt and what the building of Valhalla means. Not quite as good as gay relations in DC comics, but it too could be a real lead-in to family craziness.</p>
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		<title>By: gorjus</title>
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		<dc:creator>gorjus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG WTF, it totally is!!  As a young lad, I thrilled to the sheer absurdity of that passage--it&#039;s absolutely one of the wackiest things I&#039;ve ever read.  I loved what King Grant did for Mallah and the Brain--two of the flat-out weirdest characters ever--and I&#039;m excited (and worried) about the Geoff (&quot;Jeff&quot;) Johns (&quot;Ghons&quot;) rubbing his grubby ham-hands all over them.

As Sue says, nice leap to Santorum insanity.  Mallah is his lover and his son and a monkey!  Awesome!

&quot;Face to face in open combat.&quot;  Ha ha ha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="caps">OMG WTF</span>, it totally is!!  As a young lad, I thrilled to the sheer absurdity of that passage&#8212;it&#8217;s absolutely one of the wackiest things I&#8217;ve ever read.  I loved what King Grant did for Mallah and the Brain&#8212;two of the flat-out weirdest characters ever&#8212;and I&#8217;m excited (and worried) about the Geoff (&#8220;Jeff&#8221;) Johns (&#8220;Ghons&#8221;) rubbing his grubby ham-hands all over them.</p>
<p>As Sue says, nice leap to Santorum insanity.  Mallah is his lover and his son and a monkey!  Awesome!</p>
<p>&#8220;Face to face in open combat.&#8221;  Ha ha ha!</p>
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